Friday, April 24, 2009

Why Gitmo should stay open.

I blame Obama for this:

SAN'A, Yemen (AP) — The two young sons of a Yemeni detainee at Guantanamo died when a grenade they were playing with accidentally detonated inside their home, a human rights lawyer and the detainee's brother said Thursday.


Damn the grenade industry! If only those grenades had child locks, this never would have happened.

10 comments:

Travis Gearhart said...

Ironically a lot of children are the ones lobbing the grenades, so child locks aren't going to happen anytime soon. But aside from this post, there is a whole list of reasons why GITMO should stay open, with the top reason being THERE ISN'T ANYWHERE BETTER. After being sent overseas they typically return to the front lines or just disappear all together. I certainly don't want them to come to America where some damn civil rights lawyer will defend them and give them the possibility of walking away scott free! Plus, have you seen the pics from GITMO?! They live pretty darn good for being a detainment camp, and probably a lot better treated then if they were sent back to their own countries where they may have limbs removed in interrogation instead of just waterboarded.

Sunshine said...

Buzz, you did not go back and edit away comments from a previous blog entry have you?

Pretty sure I have the right thread... a good republican like yourself would not do that would you?

http://bluecountyredstate.blogspot.com/2009/02/public-employees-are-screwing-america.html

Travis: Have you figured out your 'unfortunate habit' and its drain on the Medicaid system and tax dollars??

Oh, I guess that is a little detail you wish to over look. It is only a waste of tax dollars that outrages you when you feel it is not applicable to YOU. Man the truth sucks...

Your post here... flipp'n hilarious. Buzz, betcha he makes you feel smart. Every Travis in the USA met not so long ago… it was called a Tea Party.

buzzcut said...

Find your own damn comments. I haven't deleted a thing.

Smokers are not a drain on Medicare. They pay in taxes, and they die earlier and quicker on average (lung cancer kills very quickly, and there is very little that can be done to fight it).

Travis is doing everyone a public service by smoking and dying early.

Keep up the good work, Travis.

Sunshine said...

So you are going to blindly and erroneously support Travis... "Five years after all current smokers who receive Medicaid benefits quit smoking, program expenditures would be an estimated $9.7 billion lower, according to a new report by researchers at RTI International."
""Reducing the number of smokers in the United States could save taxpayers billions of dollars in Medicaid costs," said Justin Trogdon, Ph.D., an RTI health economist."
http://www.rti.org/news.cfm?nav=442&objectid=BEF69190-4261-4C51-8091DBD8C5161C48
Unbeleivable.

Travis Gearhart said...

Goodness, Sunshine, it didn't take you long to completely ignore the point of buzz's post and attack me for smoking! :) and yes, i continue to smoke and will more than likely die early. The difference is I'm not doing it on the government dollars, I have my own insurance (respectively) Why the overly obnoxious tone today? Couldn't make it to the library? I'd like to know why my post was funny to you? I don't want a shitty back and forth name calling, just let me know why it was so funny. Unless your unable to do that...and by the way, on another persons site the challenge was issued that if anybody didn't consider water boarding torture, that they were invited to this fellows house to have it performed. I have volunteered as long as the method that was outlined in the memos is used (only 45 seconds at a time with a doctor present) and I'll post on here to let you know if he agrees to it, and if you'd like to see me be waterboarded I'll video tape it and post it on my site.

As far the smoking goes, I am very happy that the anti-smoking bill in Indiana was voted down.

And yes, the tea parties were great! I'm not sure they were all named Travis, but if they were then I applaud them for having such a bad ass name.

Federalist said...

Sunshine - I'll be your huckleberry.

You can find your comments at:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=663421040314509660&postID=2266580209718703597

Don't worry - I updated your accusation too. Look twice, leap once.

Federalist said...

Sunshine -

Although I would love to agree with you on the smoking point - to say Buzz is erroneous would be fallacious. Your reference is only partly corraborated by a NEJM study that the short-term impact of smoking would reduce costs - but the study you referenced looked at a 5 year window and focused on medicaid. Additionally - it relied on manipulations of the discount rate to justify its conclusions.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/337/15/1052

The NEJM looked both short-term and long-term at a more extensive sampling and removed discount rate manipulations from their study. They came to the conclusion short-term cheaper, long-term more expensive. Why? Because as Buzz said smokers die.

Now the discussion section recommends that policy still encourage smoking cessation - because we should be looking for more than $, but value. So I would suggest Travis quit - you can vote more times if you do. That's gotta be worth a couple of bucks!

buzzcut said...

You don't need a "study" to prove that smokers die early, and quick. Personal experience tells you so.

I've had loved ones taken by lung cancer. Both were in their early 50's. They were gone in a month after diagnosis. One had been smoke free for over 10 years.

I suppose that there are people like my 85 year old neighbor, who smokes a pack of Lucky Strike unfiltereds per day. But they're few and far between. Amd he's pretty healthy anyway, it's not like smoking has caused him all kinds of medical bills.

Anonymous said...

Goodness, smoke a few cigs here and there and become the topic of conversation! He he. But seriously, I recognize the health risks and my wife (and mother) are badgering me constantly to quit smoking, and I should. But that isn't the point. The point comes down to personal freedoms and the irony that liberals want everyone to quit smoking cigarrettes yet want to legalize pot. I don't get it, and I guess I never will.

Travis Gearhart said...

That last anonymous was me. I clicked a little early, he he.